Fish oil...doesn't work. Glucosamine...doesn't work. Vitamins, apart from B & D, don't work. As the CEO of Blackmores Labs noted...well, its not about that, it isnt about science, it is about...lifestyle. I have a life but I must admit I have never actually had a lifestyle. I'm not sure what a lifestyle actually is. I guess it is much like the Fashion of a life. Fashion, as described 500 years ago, is the ability to seem to be, rather than to be.